APPENDIX 2 - To
the KOLDAS material.

Teleportation of
Auto and Passengers (see a description on this case in the end of this doc.
Translated to danish)
Another unique aspect of this strange case of UFO contact
with Earth humans is the fact that two different extraterrestrial
societies carrying out independent operations here on Earth were brought into contact with each other
as a result of an experiment conducted
by Carl van Vlierden.
Van
Vlierden had investigated a strange case of teleportation of an automobile and
its 2 passengers, 392 kilometers at nearly 200 kilometers per hour by two UFOs
which he reported in considerable detail in an article for the prestigious
English UFO journal, Flying Saucer Review. The case was published in Volume 21,
Number 2, 1975, a copy of which is
reproduced here with special permission of FSR. Van Vlierden brought Peter and
Frances to Edwin's home to introduce them to the Koldasians in the hope that
Valdar could tell them something more about the case and where the operators of
the two flying discs come from.
It turned out that the group who had transported Peter
and Frances and their car was previously unknown to the Koldasians, and the new
group had no prior knowledge of the Koldasians as individual entities either.
The meeting was an historic one because it opened up a new contact between two
separate extraterrestrial groups both operating in earthspace, previously
unknown to each other, and there may be still others.
Cythia Hind, another African UFO researcher, reported
the original investigation of this case in detail in her book “UFOs, AFRICAN ENCOUNTERS ” published by Gemini (Zimbabwe), devoting 2
whole chapters to this important case.
APPENDIX III
Reciprocal Paradox
(gjensidige,
tilsynelatende selvmotsigelser)
A popular misconception of the true nature of time and
space and their intimate interrelationship is one of the great stumbling blocks
in our understanding of modern physics. Because of our inadequate
comprehension of this relationship
we are inclined to summarily reject
the frequent references in UFO
cases to anti-matter, reverse time
and negative gravity; and on
that basis reject the case too and at the same time the opportunity to study
these aspects of our reality.
In a dialogue between an extraterrestrial
space-traveller visiting Switzerland
aboard a disc-shaped spacecraft and the witness, the
alien cosmonaut told the Swiss farmer (who had a 6th grade formal education) that
matter and energy were simply opposite
aspects of the same phenomenon and that when we understood the phenomenon we
would be able to convert one to the other at will. (more info on the Meier case
see ufo-contact from the
Pleiades of.W.Stevens and Kontaktnotater fra Meiers møter med
Semjase.) The stranger discussed coarse matter (chemical matter), fine matter or coarse energy,
and then fine energy; and said that matter was simply energy slowed
down, and that energy was matter speeded up in time. The cosmonaut went on to
say that a similar relationship existed between what we called space and
time.
When the
witness asked where the first energy came from, the
stranger simply said, "thought". A most profound statement
indeed. It was indicated that all comes
from consciousness itself, Universal Mind, the Divine Fiat, in biblical
allegory truly the Word of God.
Modern physicists are just discovering and accepting that matter and energy
are bound up in space and time, and that space and time are bound up in matter
and energy together with electricity and gravity in an inseparable relationship
making up our phenomenal world.
In another dialogue the cosmonauts mentioned a counterpart reality of equal and opposite polarities; literally an 'anti-matter1' universe co-existing with and balancing ours. They said that they were in contact with this counterpart universe and some of its intelligent occupants. They described a trip through the "barrier" as relatively uneventful to those within the ship and its field as the change was made. This is very similar to the statements by the Koldasian cosmonauts in this book, and yet we can find no evidence that these witnesses ever heard of each other. (see ”Erranernes tekniske metode til opplevelse av enhet og lykke.” )
Nearly everybody threw the Swiss case out as it was
occurring in 1975 and 1976 because of these and other similar
"absurdities". This, however, did not daunt the cosmonauts visiting
earth. Extraterrestrials
visiting Northern Venezuela and
South Africa, as described in
this book, continued to answer
similar questions along these
same lines. One must consider, just who is the loser in our foolish disregard
of potential evidence in UFO cases, even if it is sometimes meta-physical?
Another variable phenomenon frequently mentioned in
UFO cases, that may not have been
identified as such yet, is the direct interrelationship between electricity and
gravity. Extraterrestrials from what we call Reticulum described these
phenomena as different aspects of the same field phenomenon which are supposed
to be also controllable. We are still trying to learn such control.
A small publication titled "The New Science" written by Wilbert B. Smith, B.A., M.A., in 1964, went a long way toward defining and explaining this relationship in his Quadrature Concept. He postulated a universe of four fabrics making up the quadrature. He called the first one the Space Fabric consisting of three parameters: Length, Area and Volume; and the second one the Field Fabric also consisting of three parameters: Density, Divergence, and Curl. Here density is really an expression of how reality is distributed in space and time, existence in a Tempic field where time is found to be a consequence. It is a scale against which any change in reality must be gauged. Divergence is the static condition of change, an "electric field", scaler in vector and quantity and in manner and distribution. Curl is the quantity and direction of divergence. It produces the magnetic field with vectorial and scaler quantities. An important thing to remember is that the Electric Field has the Tempic field (time) incorporated in it and the Magnetic Field has the Electric Field incorporated in it.
Each of
these three fields are mutually
at right angles to each other. Together they are the manifestation of reality
in the Field Fabric as perceived by awareness, becoming matter and energy as we know it.
Smith called the third Quadrature the Control Fabric
which again included three parameters: Orientation or direction, Decision or
free will in action, and Symmetry or sequence and order. Here consequence is
introduced. He called the fourth Quadrature the Percititation Fabric also made up of three parameters which bring matter and energy into
being. They are: Form or the boundary of reality (Half of
reality is inside and half outside of form. The half that is outside of
familiar form is the balancing equal and opposite part.), Multiplicity or individuality, and Aggregation or assembly into purposeful structure.
Unfortunately
Smith died before
he finished his paper but
his equations clearly showed the necessary existence of an equal and
opposite counterpart to our reality as we know it, probably of opposite spin,
and that this' counterpart must be of matter and energy of opposite polarity
--- an "Anti-matter Universe
Spin is in
fact the primordial building force of matter
and energy. All that we have in this material universe, whether matter
or energy, is made up of spin. As time is nothing more than a consequence of
spin, and not something by which spin may be measured, we can see that there
has to be an opposite of time or "Reverse Time".
Astronomers
have postulated, from different perspectives, the
necessary existence of an
anti-matter universe with reverse time and have carefully diagrammed its nature
and relationship in a fabulous book, the beautiful work
titled "GALAXIES" by Timothy Farris.
In the early 1970s, Mr. Anthony Serantitis, formerly
of Dow Chemicals, published his new and controversial Unified Field Law, where
he reduces matter to its ultimate which he called a primary photon. His photon
is not even matter or energy yet, but the basic component of both, and can
become either. He also found that direction of spin made the difference
between precipitate matter in our frame of reference (our universe) and an
opposite frame of reference - an "Anti-matter Universe
He
found that in fact the one cannot exist without the other, and that
there can be counterpart universes opposed along an infinite number of
axes, or an infinite number of equal
and opposite universes. Serantitis published his first work only for colleagues
interested in his progress.
As far as I can determine, neither Edwin nor Carl van
Vlierden have had access to either Wilbert Smith's papers or/nor have they ever
heard of Anthony Serantitis and his work.
In these counterpart universes one would expect to
find that any evolutionary development in one would find a similar but opposite
expression in the other in order to
maintain the balance.
If a humanity developed in one
then some similar manifestation might be looked for in the other. This is
exactly what is described in at least two
separate and un-connected on-going UFO contact cases where the separate witnesses are
completely unknown to
each other and
there is no
contact at all between them. The UFOnauts visiting Switzerland told
their witness that they were in contact with, and in fact coordinating with,
human beings very similar to them and us, who said they came from a counterpart
universe that was just as vast and complex as our own, and which co-existed in
time and space with us but was imperceptible
to us in our frame of
reference because their universe was of opposite polarity.
In the case featured in this book (Koldas) we find
something very similar described by
human beings who claim they come from our counterpart solar system in a
counterpart universe to observe our progress and development so as to report
this information back to their
own reality frame of reference because of the effect we have on them and they
on us. These extraterrestrials also describe their trip through the space-time
barrier as being relatively uneventful to those aboard the ship, and certainly
not violently explosive as postulated in our Science Fiction. It is all a
matter of knowledge, understanding and control.
An excellent description and contemporary analysis of
space/time geometry and its paradoxes was published in a remarkable book called
"The Tao Of Physics" authored by Fritjof Capra, printed and
distributed in 1976 by Shamballa Publications of Boulder, Colorado. This
book demonstrates the necessary exist~nce of an "antimatter"
universe and reverse time.
The "Quantum Field Theory" as illustrated in the Feynman space/time diagrams and the mathematical expressions associated with them clearly demonstrate the necessary existence for every particle of an anti-particle with equal mass and opposite charge. The mathematics of the field theory depicted by the solid and broken lines in these diagrams can be interpreted two ways, either as particle actions moving forward or as particle actions moving backward in time! The interpretations are identical, an anti-particle moving from future to past or a particle from past to future. All such space/time diagrams may be read in either direction. For every process there is an equivalent process with the direction of time reversed and the particles replaced by anti-particles in the equation. They are entirely symmetrical and one does not work without the other.
What Capra in his “Tao of Physics” concluded
of the most minute microcosmic physical particle might then be equally said for
the macrocosmic universe as described to us by other extraterrestrials visiting
Earth. Capra describes the microcosmic view of the manifest universe as a dynamic web of interrelated events. None
of the properties of any part of this web is fundamental; they all flow
from the properties
of other parts, and the overall consistency of their mutual
interrelationships determines the structure of the entire web. This “bootstrap philosophy” comes close to
the eastern “World View” propounded by Taoist Sages both
in general philosophy and in the specific picture of matter. This view accepts
no fundamental separateness of physical reality, but rather only the local
appearance of it at any given time and place.
Extraterrestrial cosmonauts who said that they came
from a
planet they called Iarga (see ufo-contact from planet Iarga)
told their Earth contactee, a Dutch Industrialist, that all life throughout
the entire universe is interrelated, and that no planet or sun exists in
complete separateness by itself. These beings,
despite the radical difference
in their physical appearance, insisted
that they were here because of that mutual interrelationship of life
and consciousness, and that we are in fact all truly brothers. TheIargans sought to advise us in a time of spiritual and
philosophical folly dangerous to us both.
The strange
unearthly creatures from the distant planet Koshnak located in the region of
the sky we call Orion, who maintained
contact with a very well known businessman and consultant in government
service, also a Baptist Minister in Puerto Rico for a number of years, and who
operated from an undersea base in the deep Puerto Rican Trench, described a similar relationship of
consciousness and its manifest physical creation in a
series of dialogues with their contactee.* These space-men also considered
themselves to be our brothers simply enjoying a broader view of reality. They
have been coming here for some time.
The
diminutive space-travelling
human-like beings from the constellation Reticulum said that they were an
exploring society seeking to understand the vastness of the creation
to which they belonged. They were also carrying out their own scientific experiments,
some under water, here because of our unique peculiarities in density. They
also described a broadscale interrelationship of all planetary and
interplanetary life, considering us as brothers and concerned about our
survival.**
The strange non-human being who said that he came from
a star in another Galaxy beyond what we call Rigel from here also told his
contactee, an Ethnic American Indian girl, that we and they are brothers in
creation, and that we both exist in terms of our relationships with each other
and many more. He mentioned whole universes beyond our native perception of
reality.***
This is exactly what we find in the information also
expressed by the human-like beings from what they call the DAL Universe,
described as an anti-matter counterpart of our own matter universe. They said
that they existed because we did, and we because of them.( see ufo-contact from the Pleiades
of.W.Stevens)Much to ponder indeed.
*UFO
CONTACT FROM UNDERSEA, Sanchez-Ocejo, Stevens
**UFO
CONTACT FROM RETICULUM, Stevens,Herrmann
***UFO
CONTACT FROM BEYOND RIGEL, (Unpublished)
APPENDIX V
Voice
Recording From Space
As this manuscript was being finalized, the Koldasians
themselves re-contacted the witnesses and observed that the report was being
made. For this contact they used the direct electromagnetic transmission
through a standard audio cassette tape-recorder, somewhat similar to the method
used with Edwin's radio receiver before it was confiscated and taken away. The
recording was made in front of several other witnesses.
The communicators first transmitted personal information
to Edwin and some of the others present, and then added their idea of an
Epilogue to close the book, and finally ended up with a special message for all
of Earth humanity.
We have decided definitely to include that special
message, in the voice of the speaker,
just as it was recorded on Edwin's cassette recorder, for all to hear.
The book had that message impressed on the included 33
RPM disc recording in the form of a plastic page bound into the book.
This page was be cut out and then be played on a standard 33 RPM Disc--type
record player.
Our thanks to the Koldasian visitors.
Møde med UFO og teleportation i Rhodesia
Denne begivenhed
fandt sted natten mellem den 30. og 31. maj 1974, da et ungt ægtepar, Peter og
Frances, kørte i bil fra Salisbury over Fort Victoria og Beit Bridge ved
grænsen til Durban, Natal, Sydafrika. Det unge par var forvirret over begivenheden,
men da de ikke kendte ret meget til UFO-spørgsmålet, selv om Peter tidligere
havde været ude for en oplevelse, vidste de ikke, hvem de kunne henvende sig
til med en rapport. Da de havde boet i Den sydafrikanske Republik i nogle
måneder, læste de tilfældigt en artikel om en UFO-rapport i en avis. De
kontaktede avisen og blev henvist til Carl van Vlierden, der er korrespondent
for Flying Saucer Review i Sydafrika.
Han fik dem til at udfylde en observationsformular
og fik også tilladelse til at optage et interview med dem på bånd. Dette foregik
i deres hjem i december 1974.
HENDELSEN
Natten mellem den 30. og 31. maj 1974 var skyfri med
fuld sigtbarhed, selvom Månen ikke var fremme. Begivenhederne begyndte på et
sted omkring 10 km syd for Umvuma, da begge vidner så en politibetjent, det troede
de i det mindste, som sad ved vejen og holdt en walkie-talkie i hånden. Peter
kørte sin Peugeot 404 med en fart, der overskred fartgrænsen på 100 km i timen
ret meget. Han vidste, der ofte var fartkontrol på denne del af vejen, så han
satte farten ned. De begyndte begge at tænke mere indgående over
politibetjenten. Peter bemærkede, at det metalagtige tøj var underligt for en
politibetjent, da de normalt havde khaki på. Frances beskrev tøjet som
plastikagtigt. Hun kiggede sig tilbage, men kunne ikke se noget.
UFO'et dukkede op kl. 2.30. Frances er helt sikker på tiden, for hun
havde lige set på sit ur. De opdagede først noget, der lignede et
projektørlys, der blev tændt og slukket. Det dukkede op temmelig tæt på bilens
venstre side og holdt samme fart som denne. Et stykke tid troede de, at det
kunne være en helikopter. Lyset havde et blåligt farveskær, var klart og
regelmæssigt, tændt i 5 sekunder, slukket i 2 sekunder.
De kørte nu 140 km i timen,
bilens maksimale hastighed. Pludselig begyndte bilens lygter at blive svage,
men radioen fortsatte med at fungere perfekt, mens de lyttede til et
jazzprogram fra Loureno Marques i Mozambique. Der var også et kraftigt lys
rundt om bilen, som fra neonlys, nok til at kaste skygger.

Mens de kørte, blev det pludseligt meget koldt i
bilen, og de måtte pakke sig ind i frakker, trøjer og tæpper og tænde for den
elektriske varme, der, ligesom radioen, stadig virkede. Tændingen må også have
været normal, for motoren fungerede godt. Så tog Peter sin fod fra speederen,
men vognen fortsatte med at køre 150 km i timen!
Kulden i bilen var meget usædvanlig. Peter havde
adskiffige gange kørt turen, og han sagde, at han aldrig havde været ude for
sådan en kulde. Der var som i et køleskab, og han anslog temperaturfaldet til
at have været fra 6~80C ned til under 100.
Peter fortalte, at han kørte fra et sted 18 km
udenfor Fort Victoria og til byens tankstation uden forlys og uden at have bilen
under kontrol. Han kunne ikke standse den, for bremserne virkede ikke. Den kørte
med omkring 160 km i timen, og da han tog foden fra speederen for at bruge bremsen,
blev bilen bare ved med at køre.
Peter: ,,Jeg tog kun foden af speederen én gang. Jeg
var som forstenet, men sagde ingenting til Frances, for hun syntes alierede at
være på randen af hysteri over alt det, der var sket."
Frances: ,,Det var som om bilen var under kontrol.
Som passager lagde jeg ikke mærke til noget, der var forkert. Bilen svingede
ikke frem og tilbage på vejen. Peter sad bare uden at gøre noget, det var som
om, vi kørte på automatisk pilot."
Så fløj UFO'et over på den anden side af bilen og
blev der et kort stykke tid. På det tidspunkt passerede de en afrikansk bus,
der holdt parkeret udenfor em butik. Alle bussens lygter var tændte, men der
var ingen mennesker at se, og det var mærkeligt, da disse busser plejer at
være stopfyldte med passagerer, der meget nødigt forlader deres personlige
bagage. Nogle få kilometer nede ad vejen holdt der en anden bus og endnu
længere fremme endnu én. Begge var tomme. De var parkeret ved vejsiden,
hvilket er forbudt i Rhodesia, og sker der et uheld, er det pålagt chaufføren
at anbringe en rød advarselstrekant bag køretøjet, men det var der ikke gjort
ved disse busser.
Der kom en lysstråle fra UFO'et og ned til horisonten,
eller, spurgte Frances, kunne det være fra horisonten og op til UFO'et?
Omtrent 10 km uden for Fort Victoria forsvandt UFO'et
ligesom et stjerneskud.
Kl. 4.30 kørte de ind på en servicestation i Fort
Victoria uden lys på. Peter afbrød motoren, og da han en time senere tændte for
den igen, var lygterne normale. Tankpasseren bemærkede, at der var noget galt
med deres forlygter. Mens han fyldte tanken op til randen, sagde Frances, som
var hyllet ind i en pels og uldtrøjer, at det var en meget kold nat. Den
indfødte tankpasser, som havde ligget og sovet ved siden af tanken kun iklædt
undertrøje og shorts, kiggede forbavset på hende og sagde, at det ikke var
koldt. Bilen var først varm igen, da de efter en pause kørte videre kl. 5.30.
Omtrent 10 km udenfor Fort Victoria gjorde Frances
endnu engang Peter opmærksorn på, at et UFO/UFO'et var dukket op på deres
venstre side, men denne gang så de også et andet, som gik i stilling over
bilen. Denne gang var lyset konstant, og de var små eller også meget højere
oppe.
Et mærkeligt aspekt ved rejsen var, at bortset fra
,,politibetjenten" og en indfødt på tankstationen, mindedes de ikke at
have set nogen under turen. Der var heller ikke andre køretøjer end de tre
busser, som jo blev set under mærkelige omstændigheder. Man må også tage i
betragtning, at folk foretrækker at køre om natten på grund af varmen om dagen,
og desuden var det natten før en fridag i Sydafrika, nationaldagen, hvorfor
man skulle forvente ekstra meget trafik.
De kom nu ind i et terræn, som de ikke havde
forventet. Vegetationen i dette område er sparsorn med nogle få ,,paraplytræer"
og spredt lav buskads på meget tør jord. Men nu kørte de gennem et udstrakt
område med sump; der var vand på overfladen, som reflekterede lyset fra
UFO'erue. Vejen var helt tør, men ved siden af var der masser af vand og
tropisk vegetation. Normalt var der en konstant støj fra fårekyllinger og
cikader, men den var nu borte, og motoren kunne de heller ikke høre. Det var
som en drømmerejse, hvor alle lydene var borte undtagen radioen, der kværnede løs på det samme program som
før.
Peter mistede igen kontrollen over bilen, og den
kørte nu 200 km i timen eller mere. Han indrømmede, at han var skræmt fra vid
og sans. ,,Først prøvede jeg på at ignorere fænomenet som en optisk illusion,
men så opdagede jeg, at jeg mistede kontrollen; det var, som om det var en
anden, der styrede bilen det var ikke
mig, der kørte, jeg kunne ligeså godt være kravlet om på bagsædet."
Skønt vejen fra Fort Victoria til Beit Bridge langt
fra er lige, var den denne aften helt lige; lige som en snor indtil ca. 3 km
før Beit Bridge. Det blev nu helt lyst, men overskyet og gråt; de havde ingen
solopgang set, og Peter slukkede forlygterne. UFO'erne kunne stadig ses, men
højere oppe. Der var stadig ingen tegn pa liv, hverken mennesker eller dyr.
Frances faldt i søvn kl. 6.15, men kort tid før forsvandt lyden fra radioen.
Unde hele turen havde det ikke
været nødvendigt at skifte station, hvilket er mærkeligt på grund af den store afstand,
de havde tilbagelagt. De masede med den et stykke tid, men kunne ikke få en
lyd ud af den.
Peter mistede tidsfornemmelsen kl. 5.30, og da
Frances var faldet i søvn, følte han sig som under hypnose.
Frances vågnede, da de nærmede sig Beit Bridge ca.
kl. 7. Der var ingen sol, og de to objekter var stadig synlige. De rhodesiske
grænsevagter var det første levende, de så, siden de havde forladt Fort
Victoria, og de havde safaritøj på. Da de så Frances og
Peter, blev de forbløffede og spurgte, om de lige var
kommet fra Nordpolen.
Nu var UFO'erne borte, og Solen var fremme som normalt, men de kunne
ikke huske, at de overhovedet havde set den stå op. Da Peter aflæste
triptælleren, som han havde stillet på nul i Fort Victoria, var han forbavset over
at se, at den kun havde talt 17 km, selv om afstanden fra Fort Victoria til
Beit Bridge er 288 km. Han havde tanket op til randen i Fort Victoria og ville
nå have en ekstra forsyning ved den sydafri kanske kontrolpost. Da han gjorde
dette kunne tanken kun tage mindre end to liter svarende til det, som er brugt
mellem For Victoria og det sted, hvor UFO'erne mødt dem for anden gang den nat.
De havde også tidligere haft nogle usædvanlige
oplevelser; Peter fortalte, at fra han var 14 og indtil for 4-5 år siden, da
han var 19, havde været vant til astralvandringer Men han holdt op med det, da
han mødte Frances, for hun kunne ikke lide det.
Frances: ,,Der var en nat, hvor jeg fik et
forfærdeligt chok; han lå og sov, og så var han pludselig væk... ja, jeg troede,
han var død, for han åndede ikke, og hans hud jeg kunne næsten se igennem ham,
hans hud var næsten transparent. Jeg forstod, at han måtte være på
astralvandring, for jeg
fandt ud af, at
han åndede meget svagt. Heldigyis vidste jeg, at jeg ikke skulle vække ham, så
det gjorde jeg ikke, og omkring 10 minutter senere var han normal igen, og jeg
vækkede ham. Han har aldrig gjort det siden, og jeg ved ikke, hvad der skete
dengang... jeg har aldrig spurgt dig."
CvV: ,,Når du har været på astralvandring, har du så
set snoren, der forbinder dig med dit fysiske legeme?"
Peter: ,,Ja".
CvV: ,,Og denne sidste UFO-oplevelse?"
Peter: ,,Dct var nøjagtig den samme følelse, som man
får, når man foriader sin fysiske krop
som de første stadier, hvor man slapper af og går ind i sig selv og forbereder
sig på astralvandring. Sådan følte jeg det."
Siden UFO-oplevelsen var Peters telepatiske evner
blevet mindre, men hans koncentrationsevne havde forbedret sig. Frances
fortalte, at hun havde haft en fantastisk hukommelse, f. eks. kunne hun lige
før en eksamen læse en bog igennem og huske den ordret, men denne evne var nu
fuldstændig forsvundet.
Peter fortalte, at han i juli 1964 også havde set en
flyvende tallerken. Han tegnede en fortræffelig skitse af objektet og
skildrede oplevelsen i detaljer. Han kørte sammen med sin far i dennes varevogn
på en grusvej uden for Shabani. Der var en jordvold ved et sving, og da de kom
omkring hjørnet, så de UFO'et, godt en meter fra vejen, det var ca. 20-25 meter
bredt. Da det lettede, gik der en sky af varmt, rødt støv ind over dem.
Objektet var metalgråt med sorte dele, hvor kraftcentret var. Støvet hang fast
på bilen i flere uger, det havde ligefrem smeltet sig ind i lakken på den hvide
varevogn. I vognen havde de en ladning elektronisk udstyr, og efter oplevelsen
fandt de ud af, at hver eneste valve og diode i udstyret var ,,sprunget",
og de måtte tage hjem for at skifte dem ud.
Efter oplevelsen i 1974 viste det sig, at bilens dæk
overhovedet ikke var blevet slidt.
Peter havde købt nogle
billige slidbaner(dekk) til turen, da det var hans hensigt at vente med at købe
nye dæk, til han kom til Sydafrika, hvor disse er meget billigere. Syv måneder
efter var slidbanerne stadig som nye, selvom de havde kørt 7-8.000 km med dem,
og de normalt kun holder til 1.200 km. Peter fortalte, at de derimod havde haft
en masse vrøvl med koblingen og generatoren, som var udbrændt, og det kunne kun
ske ved at køre for stærkt, og han mente følgelig, at det måtte skyldes den høje
fart på turen fra Rhodesia.
Her slutter Carl van Vlierdens interview med det unge
par, men han fik sørget for, at de kunne blive udspurgt under hypnose. Dette
blev foranstaltet af dr. Paul Obertik nogle dage senere i dennes
konsultationsværelse. Der findes adskillige niveauer inden-for hypnose, men dr.
Obertik sagde, at Peter kom i en meget dyb trancetilstand, hvor intet kunne
skjules. Frances derimod kunne ikke huske mere under hypnose end ved fuld
bevidsthed.
Under den dybe hypnose talte Peter med en sløv og monoton stemme, og
der var også adskillige ord, der ikke kunne skelnes. Han sagde bl. a., at
UFO'erne sendte en slags stråler ned, der overtog kontrollen over bilen og over
dem. Rumskibet brugte radioen til meddelelser, (Peter og Frances havde troet,
de hørte et program fra Mozambique), og der blev sendt en skikkelse ned på
bagsædet, hvor den blev siddende under hele turen. Fra bilen kunne Peter se op
i rumskibet, der havde tre platforme, den nederste var kraftcentret, den
midterste op-holdsrum og den øverste flyvedæk og kontrolcenter. Gennem hele
rumskibet var der to hule skakter, der fungerede som elevator. Der var et
apparat i laboratorieafdelingen, som væsenerne brugte til suggestion af mennesker,
så de accepterede deres omgivelser fuldstændigt. På et spørgsmål om, hvordan
væsenerne så ud, svarede Peter, at de tog form, som han selv ønskede det, men
når han ikke var under suggestion, havde de fysiske væsener samme form som
mennesker,dog uden kønsorganer, men han vidste ikke, hvordan de formerede sig.
De var venligtsindede og kom fra ydre galakser, og de var overordentligt
avancerede, men ikke udødelige.
Peter fortalte endvidere, at de ikke rejste i rum, men i tid, og altså
kunne komme milliarder af kilometer på få sekunder. De beherskede alle sprog
perfekt og havde gennem tiden ændret mange begivenheder på Jorden ved indirekte
indgriben. I dag er der tusinder af dem iblandt os, men de arbejder kun ved at
påvirke andre, og ønsker ikke at træde offentligt frem, fordi de ikke ønsker at
blive centrum for opmærksomhed, og langt de fleste mennesker ville alligevel
ikke forstå dem.
Uddrag af artikel i Flying Saucer Revie,
oversatt og gjengitt i danske
UFO-ASPEKT nr.3/76..